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一个列表站长对HYIP的解释



先做一个假设:如果你在某HYIP投资站赚了2000刀,但是在本不该贪心的情况下又复投了1000刀回去,最终这1000刀赔了,你觉得自己是高兴多一点,还是难受多一点。高兴的是你仍然赚了1000刀,但难受的是你本来该赚2000刀。

Hm这个站倒了,目前确切的说是98%倒了,对于这种每天准自动支付的站,如果一旦出现不支付,除非有特别理由,否则一般都是倒闭。站长说自己5W LR被盗、相信大家都知道是骗人的把戏,无非是让自己站走的安心一些。这个站死后,相信投资者有几类:一种是前期赚了并且后期没复投的,一种是进的晚成了悲剧的,还有一种估计就是把赚到的又继续复投了。

这个站刚出来的时候,是我在论坛发的帖子,由于本身利息偏低,我想很多人都是选择了复利计划,谨慎点的25%-50%复利,看好该站的75%-100%复利,我搞了点500刀100%复利的包,到期一个月1320刀准时出了,后来论坛有个新人A得知后,加了我Q,有了如下一段对话:

A:HM这个站你投了500刀?100%复利?

我:是的,怎么了?

A:投资应该先回本才对吗?你不怕赔啊?

我:……投资是要回本为先,但是是个相对的概念,我前期看好这站,所以就进了500的100%复利,然后接下来用利润跟进就是,这也是一种回本为先的理念吧。

A:这么多刀,站长不会卡吗?站才刚开,没见什么支付图,不像信誉站啊。我看论坛的帖子是你发的,该不会你就是站长吧?

我:……好吧,你说是我开就是我开吧,GF帖子也是我发的,我最近手头紧,所以我把GF关闭了。

没过多久,可能复利到期并且得到准时支付的人多了起来,站的名气也大了,开始慢慢变热,某日,找到一个投资老鸟B聊天,有了如下对话:

我:最近砸了什么站,HM你投了没? B:最近一直休息,上次的XX刀从XXX站出了后就没玩,HM站上周刚进3K。

我:汗~你该不会是100%复利的吧?到期出10945 刀,站长不卡刀?

B:应该不会吧,前几天C君的10945刀刚出,我之前是分成若干个500刀 100%复利的,这3K是利润,扔进去算了。

我:我晕,你真牛B,你觉得这站还能走么?

B:说不准啊,现在这站关注度高了起来,老外也投的猛,看站长什么胃口。我:哎,看样子我又进晚了,总以为3K复利会被卡。

这次谈话之后,HM我又出了个K刀的包和几个小刀复利,看着势头还行,每天准点支付,想想站已经开始第三轮了,就一狠心,继续把大部分利润都扔了进去,某一天,A君又来找我:

A:在吗?HM站是否有加你列表,我想做,有返佣嘛?

我:有的,你现在来进啊?进多少?

A:我钱少,砸不起500,搞一个100刀100%复利吧。

我:我晕,别这么搞啊,现在已经这么久了,顶多也是搞 50%复利吧,每天还能收点。

A:这个站已经快2个月了,一直平稳支付,我觉得是信誉 站,每天也看到很多人推荐呢。

B:汗~那随便你自己吧…

事实证明,我后期用利润加投的只收回20%,A君的100刀也没冒一个泡,不知道对他这个新人打击有多大。从以上几段对话我看到几种心态:第一种是像A君一样的新人,他们不懂得看站,可能GF和一般GC模板的垃圾站的区别在他们看来仅仅是前者有个中文翻译而已。他们只是因为近年来HYIP的在国内的火热,推荐、宣传的人多了起来,无论是QQ群、博客,都充斥着这样的影子。经典的一段 例如:”XX基金,信誉支付XX天,0X年注册的从事XX的公司,最低起投X刀,每天取款秒付,附上收款图,本人提供50%返佣,点此进入注册教程”然后像模像样的搞个注册教程。新人往往很容易受这些诱惑,并且往往喜欢依赖于这种有人指导注册投资的,但是,他们根本不指导何谓HYIP,只是被美化成是基金,再加上GF,VF,NMC这些老牛站的存在,更让这些新人坚信了自己已经找到个发财的路子。同时,他们普遍比较在意的就是,一个站开了多久时间,是否秒付,是否有安全证书(殊不知一个SSL证书,便宜的几十美元,贵的撑死了也就是几百而已)如果具备这些条件,他们就认为是牛站,是值得信赖的,如果说站上又留个地址和电话,他们就更放心了,觉得这是个真实的公司,站长都在首页上说了他们从事外汇或者贵重金属等暴利,所以才会支付钱给会员呢~呵呵,也许很多新人都不知道,首页上的介绍也好,FAQ也好,也许仅仅是ctrl+c的产物。

在此再次鄙视一下那些乱推广HYIP的新人,HYIP就是HYIP,是高风险高收益的投资,风险在前,收益在后,不要来一个站就说是XX基金,超强信誉等等。你们为了赚那点返佣这样折腾似乎只会害死站,(而且新人知道有列表这个东东后,更不会做一般投资者下线)GF死前半年,就可以看到国内的博客,QQ群,外汇交易群大多疯狂迷恋GF,淘宝上买LR的人开口就要买几万,问他买去干吗,回答90%是砸GF,我真是感叹国人的力量强大,也深感受到HYIP的扩大速度飞快,但是迷恋的国人似乎仍然痴迷的认为GF就是银行,忽略了其HYIP的本质。

第二种可能就是众多玩HYIP的人了,他们知道HYIP的含义,明白这是个游戏,知道HYIP是需要后进者的钱去支付前面的人。为了能有越多的人进来,所以站长必须把甜头给前面的人,如此往复,在一个利息最大化的时期,关门走人。但是,大家即使大家都知道这个道理,但仍然很难把持住自己的贪心,总觉得自己再搞一轮应该安全,等这一轮出了似乎觉得再来一轮亦可。

诚然,玩HYIP不要砸一轮就跑,如果有好站,应该后期利润或资金持续跟进,但是如果看苗头不对,势头不行也应该全身而退,所以难就难在这个辩证时机的问题上,谁也无法把握一个站到底什么时候死,这一点也是说不清楚,只有在投资中慢慢积累经验。投资说白了是投资者和HYIP站长心里博弈的过程,双方心里猜来猜去,投资者猜站长什么时候赚够了要跑,站长猜我支付了这一批后,后面是否还会有更多来人投。这里面的辩证,也许谁也说不清楚吧。HM这个站,我把赚的将近1K刀吐回去,正是此次犯错,心存侥幸。

第三种就是上文提到的B君,C君这种,他们其实严格来说都不算是在玩HYIP,因为他们一年也就砸3-5个站(牛站多的时候8-10个左右)在平时他们都该干嘛干嘛,他们的特点就是出手特别大,看准牛站就投进去,找一个高利润回报的站砸下去,一年赚几K-几万。相信很多人会说,这些人是有钱,所以才这么砸,其实未必,他们的钱也是上一年砸站的利润,今年继续创造成利润,下一年继续,如此往复。这类投资者往往为成为大刀客,他们的特点就是投的站少而精,一年抓住几个,就够我们几年拼搏,相比起那些新人玩10刀,20刀玩个短期垃圾站,他们生活的更舒适,也没有什么担心,不像做了很多站的人,今天要关 注这个死,明天要担心那个支付不及时。他们就是典型的投了站后睡大觉,到期取款收钱就OK。也许要做到这类境界确实不容易,但是至少给了投资者一个发展的方向。

我转念一想,正是因为HYIP中存在这上中下三类投资者,这才算是个完整的行业,才会有人亏有人赚,HYIP有风险,投资须谨慎,这句话是多么多么 的老套,又是多么多么的重要啊!

另外,说到如何衡量一个牛站的问题,我确实自己也很困惑。有人以开站时间长短来衡量,有人以是否利润高衡量,有人以是否赚到钱来衡量。先看一个例子,一个 新加入HYIP站的人,他也是听说GF是牛,砸了500进去,50%复利,没几天GF就挂了,对于他来说,GF就是彻底的垃圾了。后来我让他玩了几轮 1000-dollar站,他每天砸几百刀一直跟进了一个礼拜,赚了200多刀,对他来说,几百刀本钱,一周内本金收回,还白赚200多刀,这就是他的牛站。GF就算不死,都要三个月回本呢,这站比GF还牛(这句是他感叹的原话)。GF是牛站吧?前期砸了几万,几十万的都大有人在,这些人赚翻了,但是照样现在大把人骂的要死,因为这些人亏钱了。一些短息高息的站,比起GF这种生命周期来说,肯定是垃圾,但是也能赚的不错。或许有的时候真的该辩证的看这个问题,GF确实是牛,我承认,多少人从这里赚到了房子车子,包括我自己也是资金多点操作长期低息项目,但是对于10刀,20刀甚至百来刀的投资者,扔进去GF等3个月回本,有什么意义呢?这点小刀,去随便玩点短期中期,一个月翻倍甚至更多一点也不难。最后,还是要鄙视一下最近时期疯狂推广国内HYIP的人,用仿GF的程序搞个XX基金,搞个第三方支付平台一绑定,就成个XX基金公司,用RMB来投资,我只能说这一类人是SB+白痴,玩中文的HYIP,估计就是死路一条。看到一个这样的,都会被举报掉,几乎也赚不到钱,您说是吗?

这篇文章是几年前的了,转载它的目的,主要是给新人看的,让你们对HYIP再增加点知识,进一步认清这个游戏的规则,不要盲目跟投,也不要轻易相信任何人,因为别人为了推广,只会给你介绍项目,但是对于HYIP这个行业,只有你自己去多加学习才行。



A list of webmaster to HYIP explanation

Make a hypothesis: if you stood a HYIP investment earned $2000, but in the case of this should not be greedy and complex threw 1000 knife back, eventually it lost 1000 knives, a little more happy, do you think you are still a little more uncomfortable. Glad that you still earned $1000, but you should make some uncomfortable is $2000.

Hm the stand down, 98% down, precisely, to this kind of station must pay automatically every day, if you don't pay once appear, unless there is special reason, otherwise is usually fail. Master said he 5 w LR stolen, believe that everyone knows is deceitful trick, is nothing but let himself go at ease some. The station after death, believe that investors have a few kinds: one kind is the early made a late and didn't vote, a tragedy is a kind of into the night, I still have a kind of estimation is to earn continued to cast.

The station, as is my post in BBS hair, interest is low due to itself, I think many people chose the compound interest plan, be careful of 25% 50%, compound interest on the site of 75% 100%, compound interest 100% compound bag, I got some 500 knife due $1320 A month out on time, then BBS is A new couple is A learned, add my qq, have A dialogue as follows:

A: HM the stand you threw 500 knife? 100% compound interest?

I: yes, what's the matter?

A: investment should back to the first? You are not afraid to lose?

I:... Investment is going back to the first, but is a relative concept, I early on the stand, so he went into the 100% of the 500 compound interest, and then the next follow up is with profit, this is also a kind of back to the first idea.

A: so many knives, webmasters won't card? Standing just open, didn't see any payment figure, unlike credit standing. I see BBS posts is your hair, this not is your webmaster?

I:... Well, you say me is I open, GF posts is also me, I recently money is tight, so I closed the GF.

Before long, many may expire compound interest and get paid on time, standing reputation is also big, began to slowly heat up, one day, find a investment veteran B to chat, have the following dialogue:

I: what did recently hit a station, HM did you vote for? B: has recently been rest, after the last XX knife stood out from the XXX did not play, HM Zhou Gangjin 3 k on the site.

I: sweat ~ you should not is 100% compound interest? Due out 10945 knife, webmaster BuKa knife?

B: it shouldn't, C jun $10945 just a few days ago, before I was divided into several $500 100% compound interest, the 3 k is profit, into the well.

I: I'm dizzy, you true cow B, what do you think of this station can go?

B: can't say ah, now wh-what the standing up, foreigners also cast, see what webmaster appetite. I: ah, well, it seems that I again into the night, always think 3 k is compound interest.

After this conversation, HM and I got A K knife compound bag and A few knife, looked at the momentum of A line still, pay on time every day, think about standing has started the third round, is A cruel, continue to throw most of the profits, one day, A prince came to me again:

A: in? HM, standing by your list, I want to do, have a commission?

I: yes, now you come in? Into how many?

A: I have less money, can't afford to hit 500, with A $100 100% of compound interest.

I: I'm dizzy, don't be so ah, now so long, at most is also have 50% compound interest, can also receive some every day.

A: the station had been almost two months, A steady pay, I think it's credit standing, also saw many people recommend every day?

B: the sweat ~ it by yourself...

Facts have proven that I later with profit only take 20% of A person he did not take A $100 bubble, don't know how much this new blow to him. From more than A few conversations I saw several mentality: the first is like A gentleman, they do not know the stand, may be GF and generally the difference between the tips of the GC template in their opinion, only the former has A Chinese translation. They just because HYIP in domestic in recent years, many recommended, publicity up, whether it is QQ group, blog, are filled with such a shadow. The classical period For example: "XX fund, credit payment XX days, 0 X years engaged in XX company registered, the minimum X knife, withdrawals seconds to pay every day, enclose payment figure, I offer 50% commission, click here to enter the registered tutorial" and then the end have a tutorial. Couples often is vulnerable to the temptation, and tend to rely on the guidance of registered investment, however, they don't what is a HYIP guidance only beautified as fund, plus GF, VF, NMC the existence of the old cow standing, more let these new people firmly believe that the he had found a way to get rich. Is at the same time, they are more concerned with a standing open for long time, whether to pay, whether to have a security certificate (but a SSL certificate, cheap a few dollars, you breaking is a few hundred) if meet these conditions, they are considered cattle stations, is a reliable, if the site and leave a address and telephone number, they are more at ease, think this is a real company, master of all said they are engaged in foreign exchange on the home page or windfall profits, such as precious metal, and so will pay money to the member ~ hehe, maybe a lot of new people all don't know, cover page introduction, faqs, maybe just is the product of CTRL + c.

Despise at the disorderly promotion again in this HYIP, HYIP is HYIP, is higher-yielding investments and risk in the former, income, don't stand as XX fund, to a strong reputation, and so on. With you to make the point commission only seems to slay station, (and the couple know have a list of the things, not do ordinary investors logoff) GF die first, you can see domestic blog, QQ group, GF, foreign exchange trading group of mostly an obsession on taobao to buy LR, asking it to buy tens of thousands of why, ask him to buy to answer is 90% hit a GF, I really lamenting the people is strong, also deeply affected by HYIP expanding fast, but with the people still seem to be obsessed with think GF is the bank, ignored the essence of the HYIP.

Second possibility is that many people play HYIP, they know the meaning of HYIP, understand that this is a game, know latecomers HYIP is need money to pay for the front. In order to get more people to come in, so the owners must give benefits to people in front of, so, in a period of interest maximization, close the door to leave. But, everyone even if everyone knows this truth, but it is still difficult to control their greed, always feel to make round should be safe, and this round out seem to feel another round of yi ke.

Play HYIP, of course, be don't hit a round and then run, if you have good standing, the late should profits or funds continue to follow up, but if there is wrong, not momentum should also unscathed, so difficult is difficult in this dialectic time, no one can grasp a standing exactly when to die, which is also say not clear, only slowly accumulate experience in the investment. Investment in plain English is a process of investors and HYIP webmaster heart game, both sides in the mind to guess, when investors guess webmaster earn enough to run, webmaster guess after I paid for this a batch of, behind whether there will be more people. Here the dialectical, maybe who also said not clearly. HM this station, I spit the earn nearly 1 k knife back, it was the wrong, to take any chances.

And the third is the aforementioned B, C this, they are not strictly be playing HYIP, because they hit a 3 to 5 year also station (cow stand more than 8-10 or so) in normal times they should do, their characteristic is to particularly big, certain cattle stations into, looking for a high profit return stand it, earn a few K - tens of thousands a year. Believes that many people would say that these people are rich, so just so it, in fact, not necessarily their money last year hit the profits of station, continue to create a profit this year, next year to continue and so on. Such investors tend to be large, their characteristic is to stand fewer but better, grab a few a year, is a few years, we compared the new play $10, $20 play a short-term tips, their life more comfortable, no worry, people who do not like to do a lot of standing, today to close the death note, tomorrow have to worry about the payment is not timely. They are typical in standing after sleeping, due to withdraw money is OK. Maybe it is not easy to do this kind of state does, but at least give investors a development direction.

On second thought, it is because the HYIP exists in the 3 types of investors, this is a complete industry, will earn some lose some, HYIP has risk, investment should be cautious, this sentence is how old, how important and how!

In addition, when it comes to the problem of how to measure a cow standing, I'm really confused myself. Someone to open station measured the length, to evaluate whether someone with high profit, whether someone to make money to measure. First look at an example, a new join HYIP standing, he is also heard that GF is cow, failed in 500, 50% of compound interest, GF hang up, just a few days for his GF is complete rubbish. Then I let him play a few rounds of the 1000 - dollar stood, he hit a few have been follow up every day for a week, made more than 200 knives, for him, a few capital, the principal back within a week, also white earn more than 200 knives, this is his cow standing. GF even if die, is three months back to this, this station cattle than GF (the other is his exclamation's words). GF is cattle stations? Early to hit the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of matches, these people make to turn over, but now big scold people to death, so because these people lose money. Some short messages of high-yield stand, compared with GF, the life cycle must be waste, but also can make good. Maybe sometimes really should dialectically look at this problem, GF is indeed a cow, I admit, how many people from here to earn the house the car, including myself and capital operation more cheap project for a long time, but for $10, 20 or even hundreds of knife investors, throw in GF back this 3 months, such as what is the point? This knife, to just play some short-term metaphase, double or more a month isn't difficult at all. Finally, crazy or want to despise the recent period to promote domestic HYIP, in imitation of GF program have a XX fund, have a third-party payment platform, a binding, it was the XX fund companies, to investment with RMB, I can only say that this kind of person is SB + idiocy, playing Chinese HYIP, estimation is a dead end. To see such a report will be off, almost can't make money, you say?

Is a few years ago, this article reprinted its purposes, main is to see new people, let your HYIP add point for knowledge, and further understand the rules of the game, don't blindly follow, also don't believe anyone easily, because people in order to promote, only to introduce the project, but for the HYIP industry, only you to learn more.


 




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